No such words are used, nor is this what he means. '". The cruelty which is hardest to bear is often not deliberate but the product of sheer thoughtlessness. He who ascended into Heaven is he who first descended into the lower parts of the earth ( Ephesians 4:9-10). But when he rose again, he rose with a spiritual body, in which he was rid of the necessary weaknesses of humanity and liberated from the necessary limitations of time and space. 
Once again, where infant baptism is the practice, we must take these great conceptions and apply them to the time when we enter upon full membership of the Church. Whatever may be found in hymns, or sermons, or theology, scripture knows no such thing as an elect church. in which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison. The Greek word translated proclaimed or preached means to publicly declare or There speaks the prophetic voice to our modern condition. "For for this cause was the gospel preached to the dead also, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit." (b) If we look at Moffatt's translation, we find something quite different. For the time that is past is sufficient to have done what the Gentiles will to do, to have lived a life of licentiousness, lust, drunkenness, revellings, carousings, and abominable idolatry. (v) When we go beyond these two verses, further into the passage, we can add two more great truths to Peter's view of the work of Christ. Where this is duly weighed, it is wonderful what a change is produced in the mind, tone, and temper a change both in those who tend the flock, and in those who are cared for; because then God is looked to, and there is no petty feeling of infringing the rights of man in one form or another. The legal sacrifices were repeated from day to day, and from year to year; but the sacrifice of Christ, once offered, purgeth away sin, Hebrews 7:27; Hebrews 9:26; Hebrews 9:28; Hebrews 10:10; Hebrews 10:12; Hebrews 10:14. in which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison, Young's Literal Some of the most beautiful people in the world, that beautiful inner beauty; you love to be around them because there's just such a beauty that comes forth from their lives. This, then, may serve to show the true nature of Christianity, which, coming in after redemption, is founded on it, and forms in us heavenly associations and hopes while Jesus is away, and we are waiting for Him to return. Those addressed from among the Jews were among the chosen ones, "elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father.". And Rendel Harris thought that this passage referred, not to Jesus, but to Enoch, and Moffatt so far agreed with him as to put Enoch into his translation. His spirit, instead of being bound by those forces that lead to eternal condemnation, entered into fuller life. 2. Roman matrons were prohibited from drinking wine, and Egnatius beat his wife to death when he found her doing so. The creature is utterly ruined in every way, and with so much the speedier manifestation the more spiritual the trial. It is the constant and notorious source of the difficulties that one has continually to contend with, because feelings are roused by this all sorts of jealousies and wounded feelings are created by a position so false. Those who hold this view often go on to argue that, since these sinners were desperately disobedient, so much so that God sent the flood and destroyed them ( Genesis 6:12-13), we may believe that no man is outside the mercy of God. The total submission of the universe to Christ is woven into the thought of the New Testament. You're witnessing against yourself. Now, when a conscience is touched by the Holy Spirit, what is it that satisfies such a conscience? Women cannot hold public offices, or priesthoods, or gain triumphs; they have no public occupations. Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred which redeems them from the transgressions under the first covenant.10. But even now grace gives the believer (here believing Jews) to enter that place; we are now God's people. He says that after his resurrection Jesus went into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to him ( 1 Peter 3:22). Hope in the promises of God is one of the major themes in the epistle, together with their obligation to patiently endure sufferings and Now, if Christ was not exempted from sufferings, why should Christians expect it? That we receive the peace we need as Christians is mainly connected, not with His coming out from God, but with His going back to God; as it is said here, "Who by him do believe in God that" what? When Christ died, he died once and for all ( Romans 6:10). It will be observed that "God's" is inserted in italics. It is, however, too evident that there is nothing like incredulity for swallowing anything that panders to the first man, and leaving out the glory of the Second. This is not only one of the most difficult passages in Peter's letter, it is one of the most difficult in the whole New Testament; and it is also the basis of one of the most difficult articles in the creed, "He descended into Hell." by all sorts of circumstances, and above all by the evil of our old nature that surrounds it, in Him, as we know, absolutely perfect and without mixture. Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they may also without the word be won by the conversation or behavior of the wives ( 1 Peter 3:1 ); Or the lifestyle of the wife. Angels who were imprisoned for their sins (the 'sons of God' from Genesis 6.1-4) are the ones being proclaimed to. Next he shows some of the privileges as well as wants of the Christian. It may well be that we ought to think of this as a picture painted in terms of poetry rather than a doctrine stated in terms of theology. 
In writing to the Christians of Corinth, he uses the same picture of the Christians as members of one body in spite of all their differing qualities and gifts ( 1 Corinthians 12:12-31). Thus neither faith had its adequate and suited sphere, nor had hope its proper character till Jesus went away. Augustine's view makes most sense to me. Compare also Jesus implication that angels do not procreate in Matthew 22:30. The rest will die. Finally [addressing now both], be of one mind, having compassion for one another, love as brethren, be pitiful ( 1 Peter 3:8 ). Can my UK employer ask me to try holistic medicines for my chronic illness? In the ancient world chivalry to women was well-nigh unknown. The sufferings of Christ were a true and proper punishment; this punishment was suffered to expiate and to make an atonement for sin; and it extends to all sin. As we shall go on to see, this most probably means that in the time between his death and his resurrection Jesus actually preached the gospel in the abode of the dead; that is to say, to those who in their lifetime had never had the opportunity to hear it. It is not often that words are thus left out. Maybe some of you have some ideas you can share with me.Having devoted six verses to the wives, he now devotes one to the husband. Windisch rejects it as inconsistent with the context. That does not mean that the like-mindedness we are to strive for is to be a drab uniformity of the sort beloved of bureaucrats. But what will not men believe, provided it be not in the Bible? Against Heresies, IV.XXVII.2 They were redeemed then with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. (b) Peter says the Spirit of Christ was speaking through the OT prophets (1 Peter 1:11); thus Christ could have been speaking through Noah as an OT prophet. How does Moffatt arrive at this translation? The times of the Gentiles are still in course of accomplishment. In 1 Peter 5:1-14 we read, "The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you;" but all concede that the terms " the church that is " have been put in by the translators: they have no authority whatever. However this may have been, it is of all importance for the Christian that he should be established in the place of patient submission; as we see Paul elsewhere taking especial pains to insist that the Christians in Rome should obey, even where they had to do with one of the most abandoned men that had ever governed the empire, persecuting themselves to death a short time after. Divisions, whether disagreements between individual members or the existence of factions and parties and--how much more!--our present-day denominations, constitute a calling in question of the Gospel itself and a sign that those who are involved are carnal. Such will be "that day," and of that day Hosea prophesies. Thus, it would be proper to say that Whitefield came to America, and preached to the souls in perdition; or to go among the graves of the first settlers of New Haven, and say, Davenport came from England to preach to the dead men around us.. But it is so easy to rail back. In the Book of Enoch it is said that he was sent down from heaven to announce to these angels their final doom (Enoch 12: 1) and that he proclaimed that for them, because of their sin, there was neither peace nor forgiveness ever (Enoch 12 and 13). The example of Christ is proposed as an argument for patience under sufferings, the strength of which will be discerned if we consider the several points contained in the words; observe therefore, 1. He led the captives from their captivity. For this reason, that very few were saved then, whilst. Web1 Peter 3:19-21New International Version. As Bigg puts it: "The sighs of the injured wife come between the husband's prayers and God's hearing." What he refers to is the loss of their title to be the people of God, which Israel sustained at the time of the Babylonish captivity. If asked why this should be accepted as the meaning of the expression, I acknowledge that one is bound to give a reason for that which no doubt differs from the view of many, and I answer, that in my judgment the just and only meaning of the word is proved from the fact that the saints are said to be "elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ.". He must remember that women are the weaker sex and treat them with courtesy. There is no Scriptural reason whatever for not referring to that whole generation which rejected the preaching of Noah as "the souls in prison"; however, Peter wrote, "spirits in prison"; and, for that reason, we must refer the words "spirits in prison" to their present status at the time of Peter's writing. In this chapter (1 Peter 4:1-19) we come to the divine government in dealing with nature opposing itself to the will of God. "If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth." 162.] [Note: For fuller discussion of these views, see D. Edmond Hiebert, "The Suffering and Triumphant Christ: An Exposition of 1 Peter 3:18-22," Bibliotheca Sacra 139:554 (April-June 1982):151-52.]. , , . We must first note that this phrase is very misleading. And when the Lord Jesus appears by and by, there will be not the gospel as it is now preached, nor the Holy Ghost as He is now sent down from heaven, but the word going forth and the Spirit poured out suitably to that day. He does not advise the wife to leave her husband. Yes, the linguistics and patristics carry this answer. This is the important difference here revealed. He has always been a fascinating and mysterious person. Hell is the place of the punishment of the wicked; Hades was the place where all the dead went. Assuredly he is to shepherd the flock, and this as God's flock, not his own. They 'dwell' in God's Presense continually-therefore, they are not needing 'salvation', they are ministers of salvation to those who believe. It has been well pointed out that we are involved in two kinds of suffering. Do I look sharp tonight? WebInterlinear Bible 1 Peter 1:19 Christouof ChristN-GMS - Biblical Greek 1:14 and maintain that "spirits in prison" are in fact "angels" who according to Jude 1:6,"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.". So "bless those that curse you," Jesus said. Christianity alone settles all questions. that Enoch ( G1802) had been mistakenly omitted for that reason). When the Christian remembers his dependence on God and keeps before him the standard of Christ, he must remain humble. The spirits were disobedient while the ark was being prepared. They would rather have placed the sprinkling of the blood first, and obedience next. This is Christianity. If you suffer for evil doing, you've got it coming. Isaiah 49:9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. It was during the height of the hippie thing around here where these hippies had these old vans and held together with bailing wire, you know; material things didn't mean anything to them, paint all over them. This passage has lodged in the creed in the phrase: "He descended into hell." @MarkEdward-I'm not contesting your linguistic analysis but the evidence lies within the context of how the words are used. Epictetus and Peter agree. The purposes of God was thwarted by sinful man.So in order that man might have fellowship with God, these purposes of God restored, Jesus suffered once for our sins, "the just for the unjust", that He might be able to bring you to God. It is a rejected Messiah who is the proper object of the Christian's love, though he never beheld Him; and who while unseen becomes so much the more simply and unmixedly the object of his faith, and withal the spring of "joy unspeakable and full of glory.". They were ever a rebellious people, as we know; and the Christian Jews were in danger of using their Christianity in order to justify insubjection. So how we live is extremely important, just as important as what we say. In regard to this doctrine there have always been differing attitudes amongst thinkers. When he refers to Him as a "lamb without blemish and without spot," he evidently points to their types, yea, to Christ before the types, because we had that from the very beginning in the first recorded sacrifice, long before there was a Jew and still more before the law. But there are some problems with this theory. Is there reason to believe that 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 actually happened? In this case, however, it is difficult to see the purpose of the digression, or what could have brought the subject into St. Peter's mind. But their punishment was delayed to see if they would repent; and the long-suffering of God waited one hundred and twenty years, which were granted to them for this purpose; during which time, as criminals tried and convicted, they are represented as being in prison-detained under the arrest of Divine justice, which waited either for their repentance or the expiration of the respite, that the punishment pronounced might be inflicted. Thus he says, "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us." And so, when they see that they have nothing else than to be bedfellows of men, they begin to beautify themselves and put all their hopes on that. It was an imprecation of death on themselves from God if they violated His commandments. But then they are "his congregation;" they think so, and the godly man really believes it. But they both suppose an open door for ministry among Christians in the Christian assembly. Whilst the Lord was here, it is ignorance and error to call such a state of things, however blessed and needed, Christianity. The blood of Jesus Christ, however precious and indispensable, does not of itself constitute a man a Christian either in intelligence or in fact of standing. WebTranslation Details for 1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Other Translations for 1 Peter 3:19 Discussion for 1 Peter 3 View All Web1 Peter 3 Wives 1 In the same way, you wives must accept the authority of your husbands. Its effect must be on a man's very soul and on his whole life. Who are referred to by spirits? What is meant by in prison? Was the message brought to them while in the prison, or at some previous period? Hence it is evident that, as long as the times of the Gentiles proceed, the Jews cannot regain their ancient title, nor become the real owners of Emmanuel's land. At first sight it looks like injustice. If you do the timeline math, the days of Jared comd way before the building of the ark! In that chapter we have Israel agreeing to do whatever the law demanded, and thereupon the blood of certain victims is taken and sprinkled on the people, as well as on the book that bound them. WebThis reason, or answer, is to be given to everyone, who asks in a modest manner and with respect appropriate to the subject; as the phrases, "with meekness and fear", can be for And it would have been easy to have railed back but the poor woman is mentally disturbed. The more usual fault of those who copied the scriptures was that they added words. Who are the spirits who received a proclamation (1 Peter 3:19)? This is what we've been called to do. Relatively few will escape Gods coming judgment, just as only eight escaped His former judgment. This is both true and important in its place. Whose adorning [or beauty] let it not be the outward the fancy hairstyles, the wearing of gold, or the putting on of fancy clothes ( 1 Peter 3:2-3 ); I could get in big trouble at this point. *In fact but one uncial (Cod. Angelicus Romanus) of the ninth century with many cursives warrants the omission; but , A, B, C, K, more than fifty cursives, and all the versions but the Arabic of the Parisian Polyglott support the words. It is a great mistake to suppose that the blood there is used as a sign of the putting away of sin. That is to say, it is not simply the blood of Christ, which indeed is never the meaning of baptism; still less is it the life of Christ: baptism means nothing of the sort. of the Vulgate before me, the clause is thus: In quo et his qui in carcere erant SPIRITU venient praedicavit; "in which, coming by the Spirit, he preached to those who were in prison." M. Pomazanski, Orthodox Dogmatic Theology (3rd ed. It is almost impossible for us to realize what life must have been for the wife who was brave enough to become a Christian. A third group holds that Jesus proclaimed His victory on the cross to fallen angels. They were those who were sometimes disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah. No others are specified; and if it should be maintained that this means that he went down to hell (Hades), or to Sheol, and preached to those who are confined there, it could be inferred from this passage only that he preached to that portion of the lost spirits confined there which belonged to the particular generation in which Noah lived. The precious blood of Christ is another thing altogether; and there alone is efficacy found before God; so also His incorruptible seed revealing Himself is planted in the heart of the saint. The Philippians must stand fast in one spirit, striving together with one mind for the faith of the gospel; they will make Paul's happiness complete, if they have the same love and have one accord and one mind; the quarrelling Euodias and Syntyche are urged to be of one mind in the Lord ( Php_1:27 ; Php_2:2 ; Php_4:2 ). 2. The obvious problem with this view is that Peter linked these people with Noah. Such was Hades, into which the spirits of all men went after death. He went to preach to "the spirits in prison." These were insisted on in the Old Testament, particularly in the psalms and the prophets. a great many perished. ", Hell(everlasting fire) was prepared for Satan(the devil) and his angels-their judgement was immediate, there was no "waiting" for a Great White Throne Judgement. Me to try holistic medicines for my chronic illness coming judgment, just as only eight his! Holistic medicines for my chronic illness their sins ( the 'sons of God ' from Genesis 6.1-4 ) are spirits! 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Once again, where infant baptism is the practice, we must take these great conceptions and apply them to the time when we enter upon full membership of the Church. Whatever may be found in hymns, or sermons, or theology, scripture knows no such thing as an elect church. in which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison. The Greek word translated proclaimed or preached means to publicly declare or There speaks the prophetic voice to our modern condition. "For for this cause was the gospel preached to the dead also, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit." (b) If we look at Moffatt's translation, we find something quite different. For the time that is past is sufficient to have done what the Gentiles will to do, to have lived a life of licentiousness, lust, drunkenness, revellings, carousings, and abominable idolatry. (v) When we go beyond these two verses, further into the passage, we can add two more great truths to Peter's view of the work of Christ. Where this is duly weighed, it is wonderful what a change is produced in the mind, tone, and temper a change both in those who tend the flock, and in those who are cared for; because then God is looked to, and there is no petty feeling of infringing the rights of man in one form or another. The legal sacrifices were repeated from day to day, and from year to year; but the sacrifice of Christ, once offered, purgeth away sin, Hebrews 7:27; Hebrews 9:26; Hebrews 9:28; Hebrews 10:10; Hebrews 10:12; Hebrews 10:14. in which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison, Young's Literal Some of the most beautiful people in the world, that beautiful inner beauty; you love to be around them because there's just such a beauty that comes forth from their lives. This, then, may serve to show the true nature of Christianity, which, coming in after redemption, is founded on it, and forms in us heavenly associations and hopes while Jesus is away, and we are waiting for Him to return. Those addressed from among the Jews were among the chosen ones, "elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father.". And Rendel Harris thought that this passage referred, not to Jesus, but to Enoch, and Moffatt so far agreed with him as to put Enoch into his translation. His spirit, instead of being bound by those forces that lead to eternal condemnation, entered into fuller life. 2. Roman matrons were prohibited from drinking wine, and Egnatius beat his wife to death when he found her doing so. The creature is utterly ruined in every way, and with so much the speedier manifestation the more spiritual the trial. It is the constant and notorious source of the difficulties that one has continually to contend with, because feelings are roused by this all sorts of jealousies and wounded feelings are created by a position so false. Those who hold this view often go on to argue that, since these sinners were desperately disobedient, so much so that God sent the flood and destroyed them ( Genesis 6:12-13), we may believe that no man is outside the mercy of God. The total submission of the universe to Christ is woven into the thought of the New Testament. You're witnessing against yourself. Now, when a conscience is touched by the Holy Spirit, what is it that satisfies such a conscience? Women cannot hold public offices, or priesthoods, or gain triumphs; they have no public occupations. Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred which redeems them from the transgressions under the first covenant.10. But even now grace gives the believer (here believing Jews) to enter that place; we are now God's people. He says that after his resurrection Jesus went into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to him ( 1 Peter 3:22). Hope in the promises of God is one of the major themes in the epistle, together with their obligation to patiently endure sufferings and Now, if Christ was not exempted from sufferings, why should Christians expect it? That we receive the peace we need as Christians is mainly connected, not with His coming out from God, but with His going back to God; as it is said here, "Who by him do believe in God that" what? When Christ died, he died once and for all ( Romans 6:10). It will be observed that "God's" is inserted in italics. It is, however, too evident that there is nothing like incredulity for swallowing anything that panders to the first man, and leaving out the glory of the Second. This is not only one of the most difficult passages in Peter's letter, it is one of the most difficult in the whole New Testament; and it is also the basis of one of the most difficult articles in the creed, "He descended into Hell." by all sorts of circumstances, and above all by the evil of our old nature that surrounds it, in Him, as we know, absolutely perfect and without mixture. Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they may also without the word be won by the conversation or behavior of the wives ( 1 Peter 3:1 ); Or the lifestyle of the wife. Angels who were imprisoned for their sins (the 'sons of God' from Genesis 6.1-4) are the ones being proclaimed to. Next he shows some of the privileges as well as wants of the Christian. It may well be that we ought to think of this as a picture painted in terms of poetry rather than a doctrine stated in terms of theology. In writing to the Christians of Corinth, he uses the same picture of the Christians as members of one body in spite of all their differing qualities and gifts ( 1 Corinthians 12:12-31). Thus neither faith had its adequate and suited sphere, nor had hope its proper character till Jesus went away. Augustine's view makes most sense to me. Compare also Jesus implication that angels do not procreate in Matthew 22:30. The rest will die. Finally [addressing now both], be of one mind, having compassion for one another, love as brethren, be pitiful ( 1 Peter 3:8 ). Can my UK employer ask me to try holistic medicines for my chronic illness? In the ancient world chivalry to women was well-nigh unknown. The sufferings of Christ were a true and proper punishment; this punishment was suffered to expiate and to make an atonement for sin; and it extends to all sin. As we shall go on to see, this most probably means that in the time between his death and his resurrection Jesus actually preached the gospel in the abode of the dead; that is to say, to those who in their lifetime had never had the opportunity to hear it. It is not often that words are thus left out. Maybe some of you have some ideas you can share with me.Having devoted six verses to the wives, he now devotes one to the husband. Windisch rejects it as inconsistent with the context. That does not mean that the like-mindedness we are to strive for is to be a drab uniformity of the sort beloved of bureaucrats. But what will not men believe, provided it be not in the Bible? Against Heresies, IV.XXVII.2 They were redeemed then with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. (b) Peter says the Spirit of Christ was speaking through the OT prophets (1 Peter 1:11); thus Christ could have been speaking through Noah as an OT prophet. How does Moffatt arrive at this translation? The times of the Gentiles are still in course of accomplishment. In 1 Peter 5:1-14 we read, "The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you;" but all concede that the terms " the church that is " have been put in by the translators: they have no authority whatever. However this may have been, it is of all importance for the Christian that he should be established in the place of patient submission; as we see Paul elsewhere taking especial pains to insist that the Christians in Rome should obey, even where they had to do with one of the most abandoned men that had ever governed the empire, persecuting themselves to death a short time after. Divisions, whether disagreements between individual members or the existence of factions and parties and--how much more!--our present-day denominations, constitute a calling in question of the Gospel itself and a sign that those who are involved are carnal. Such will be "that day," and of that day Hosea prophesies. Thus, it would be proper to say that Whitefield came to America, and preached to the souls in perdition; or to go among the graves of the first settlers of New Haven, and say, Davenport came from England to preach to the dead men around us.. But it is so easy to rail back. In the Book of Enoch it is said that he was sent down from heaven to announce to these angels their final doom (Enoch 12: 1) and that he proclaimed that for them, because of their sin, there was neither peace nor forgiveness ever (Enoch 12 and 13). The example of Christ is proposed as an argument for patience under sufferings, the strength of which will be discerned if we consider the several points contained in the words; observe therefore, 1. He led the captives from their captivity. For this reason, that very few were saved then, whilst. Web1 Peter 3:19-21New International Version. As Bigg puts it: "The sighs of the injured wife come between the husband's prayers and God's hearing." What he refers to is the loss of their title to be the people of God, which Israel sustained at the time of the Babylonish captivity. If asked why this should be accepted as the meaning of the expression, I acknowledge that one is bound to give a reason for that which no doubt differs from the view of many, and I answer, that in my judgment the just and only meaning of the word is proved from the fact that the saints are said to be "elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ.". He must remember that women are the weaker sex and treat them with courtesy. There is no Scriptural reason whatever for not referring to that whole generation which rejected the preaching of Noah as "the souls in prison"; however, Peter wrote, "spirits in prison"; and, for that reason, we must refer the words "spirits in prison" to their present status at the time of Peter's writing. In this chapter (1 Peter 4:1-19) we come to the divine government in dealing with nature opposing itself to the will of God. "If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth." 162.] [Note: For fuller discussion of these views, see D. Edmond Hiebert, "The Suffering and Triumphant Christ: An Exposition of 1 Peter 3:18-22," Bibliotheca Sacra 139:554 (April-June 1982):151-52.]. , , . We must first note that this phrase is very misleading. And when the Lord Jesus appears by and by, there will be not the gospel as it is now preached, nor the Holy Ghost as He is now sent down from heaven, but the word going forth and the Spirit poured out suitably to that day. He does not advise the wife to leave her husband. Yes, the linguistics and patristics carry this answer. This is the important difference here revealed. He has always been a fascinating and mysterious person. Hell is the place of the punishment of the wicked; Hades was the place where all the dead went. Assuredly he is to shepherd the flock, and this as God's flock, not his own. They 'dwell' in God's Presense continually-therefore, they are not needing 'salvation', they are ministers of salvation to those who believe. It has been well pointed out that we are involved in two kinds of suffering. Do I look sharp tonight? WebInterlinear Bible 1 Peter 1:19 Christouof ChristN-GMS - Biblical Greek 1:14 and maintain that "spirits in prison" are in fact "angels" who according to Jude 1:6,"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.". So "bless those that curse you," Jesus said. Christianity alone settles all questions. that Enoch ( G1802) had been mistakenly omitted for that reason). When the Christian remembers his dependence on God and keeps before him the standard of Christ, he must remain humble. The spirits were disobedient while the ark was being prepared. They would rather have placed the sprinkling of the blood first, and obedience next. This is Christianity. If you suffer for evil doing, you've got it coming. Isaiah 49:9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. It was during the height of the hippie thing around here where these hippies had these old vans and held together with bailing wire, you know; material things didn't mean anything to them, paint all over them. This passage has lodged in the creed in the phrase: "He descended into hell." @MarkEdward-I'm not contesting your linguistic analysis but the evidence lies within the context of how the words are used. Epictetus and Peter agree. The purposes of God was thwarted by sinful man.So in order that man might have fellowship with God, these purposes of God restored, Jesus suffered once for our sins, "the just for the unjust", that He might be able to bring you to God. It is a rejected Messiah who is the proper object of the Christian's love, though he never beheld Him; and who while unseen becomes so much the more simply and unmixedly the object of his faith, and withal the spring of "joy unspeakable and full of glory.". They were ever a rebellious people, as we know; and the Christian Jews were in danger of using their Christianity in order to justify insubjection. So how we live is extremely important, just as important as what we say. In regard to this doctrine there have always been differing attitudes amongst thinkers. When he refers to Him as a "lamb without blemish and without spot," he evidently points to their types, yea, to Christ before the types, because we had that from the very beginning in the first recorded sacrifice, long before there was a Jew and still more before the law. But there are some problems with this theory. Is there reason to believe that 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 actually happened? In this case, however, it is difficult to see the purpose of the digression, or what could have brought the subject into St. Peter's mind. But their punishment was delayed to see if they would repent; and the long-suffering of God waited one hundred and twenty years, which were granted to them for this purpose; during which time, as criminals tried and convicted, they are represented as being in prison-detained under the arrest of Divine justice, which waited either for their repentance or the expiration of the respite, that the punishment pronounced might be inflicted. Thus he says, "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us." And so, when they see that they have nothing else than to be bedfellows of men, they begin to beautify themselves and put all their hopes on that. It was an imprecation of death on themselves from God if they violated His commandments. But then they are "his congregation;" they think so, and the godly man really believes it. But they both suppose an open door for ministry among Christians in the Christian assembly. Whilst the Lord was here, it is ignorance and error to call such a state of things, however blessed and needed, Christianity. The blood of Jesus Christ, however precious and indispensable, does not of itself constitute a man a Christian either in intelligence or in fact of standing. WebTranslation Details for 1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Other Translations for 1 Peter 3:19 Discussion for 1 Peter 3 View All Web1 Peter 3 Wives 1 In the same way, you wives must accept the authority of your husbands. Its effect must be on a man's very soul and on his whole life. Who are referred to by spirits? What is meant by in prison? Was the message brought to them while in the prison, or at some previous period? Hence it is evident that, as long as the times of the Gentiles proceed, the Jews cannot regain their ancient title, nor become the real owners of Emmanuel's land. At first sight it looks like injustice. If you do the timeline math, the days of Jared comd way before the building of the ark! In that chapter we have Israel agreeing to do whatever the law demanded, and thereupon the blood of certain victims is taken and sprinkled on the people, as well as on the book that bound them. WebThis reason, or answer, is to be given to everyone, who asks in a modest manner and with respect appropriate to the subject; as the phrases, "with meekness and fear", can be for And it would have been easy to have railed back but the poor woman is mentally disturbed. The more usual fault of those who copied the scriptures was that they added words. Who are the spirits who received a proclamation (1 Peter 3:19)? This is what we've been called to do. Relatively few will escape Gods coming judgment, just as only eight escaped His former judgment. This is both true and important in its place. Whose adorning [or beauty] let it not be the outward the fancy hairstyles, the wearing of gold, or the putting on of fancy clothes ( 1 Peter 3:2-3 ); I could get in big trouble at this point. *In fact but one uncial (Cod. Angelicus Romanus) of the ninth century with many cursives warrants the omission; but , A, B, C, K, more than fifty cursives, and all the versions but the Arabic of the Parisian Polyglott support the words. It is a great mistake to suppose that the blood there is used as a sign of the putting away of sin. That is to say, it is not simply the blood of Christ, which indeed is never the meaning of baptism; still less is it the life of Christ: baptism means nothing of the sort. of the Vulgate before me, the clause is thus: In quo et his qui in carcere erant SPIRITU venient praedicavit; "in which, coming by the Spirit, he preached to those who were in prison." M. Pomazanski, Orthodox Dogmatic Theology (3rd ed. It is almost impossible for us to realize what life must have been for the wife who was brave enough to become a Christian. A third group holds that Jesus proclaimed His victory on the cross to fallen angels. They were those who were sometimes disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah. No others are specified; and if it should be maintained that this means that he went down to hell (Hades), or to Sheol, and preached to those who are confined there, it could be inferred from this passage only that he preached to that portion of the lost spirits confined there which belonged to the particular generation in which Noah lived. The precious blood of Christ is another thing altogether; and there alone is efficacy found before God; so also His incorruptible seed revealing Himself is planted in the heart of the saint. The Philippians must stand fast in one spirit, striving together with one mind for the faith of the gospel; they will make Paul's happiness complete, if they have the same love and have one accord and one mind; the quarrelling Euodias and Syntyche are urged to be of one mind in the Lord ( Php_1:27 ; Php_2:2 ; Php_4:2 ). 2. The obvious problem with this view is that Peter linked these people with Noah. 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